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15-37 Oregon Mismanages Everything | It won’t even follow its own laws

By Dr Mark | September 13, 2025 | Comments 0 Comment

Show 15-37 Summary: In the difficult shadow of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, we welcome two guests to discuss Oregon’s mismanagement of everything. Does Oregon do anything right? We discuss two key areas Oregon constantly bungles: health care and school trust lands.

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Air Dates: September 13th & 14th, 2025 | Guests: Lisa Lettenmaier & Dave Sullivan

This Week – Oregon Mismanages Everything

This week was tough. Only an hour before our scheduled interview with our first guest, Dave Sullivan, we learned that Charlie Kirk had been shot. We called to reschedule as we absorbed the news, we prayed, only to learn Charlie had been pronounced dead.

It really put things into perspective. But we also know Charlie wants everyone to continue the fight and to stand up to the Left, and, in Oregon’s case, that’s the Left’s dominance of state government. Which is why everything Oregon does is mismanaged.

It’s stunning, really. You’d think just by sheer accident they could do something right. But from ODOT to schools to health care to its forests to its school trust lands, Oregon is the prime example of what not to do.

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Oregon Mismanages Health Care

First up, we welcome back our go-to expert for health insurance, Lisa Lettenmaier. Because insurance cost in Oregon is going up. A lot. What has Oregon done to mess this up? And why is it going up? We know what the Left-stream media blames. Just like everything else, they are blaming Trump and his policies.

Except, that’s not the reality. Tune in to hear what’s actually causing the increases.

Oregon Mismanages its School Trust Lands

We also welcome back Dr. Dave Sullivan. The last time we talked, he had filed a lawsuit against the State of Oregon for refusing to obey its own laws to manage the School Trust lands. That was 2022. No surprise, Oregon is still mismanaging them. Except it’s gotten worse.

The good news is — there is great news.

Lawsuits to force Oregon to obey the law are expensive. If you can, please donate to help them continue the fight. Head to OASTL.org (Oregon Advocates for State Trust Lands) to explore more or jump to their donate page.

Dr. Sullivan’s case just won their first hurdle: standing. And to do so, the Coos County judge relied on a somewhat unconventional approach. Because of the historical facts, he ruled the case fell under common law, not statute. While it seemed a novel approach to us, applying common law, it turns out, is more common than we thought. Listen and find out why.

And when you do, you’ll also hear just how badly Oregon gets its school trust lands “management” wrong. Turns out, they’re fighting more than 200 years of history.

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Show Notes: Research, Links Mentioned & Additional Info

Lisa Lettenmaier is an expert at finding you the best, most cost-effective health insurance or Medicare plan. Let her help you take the hassle out of it. Call or email her, just visit HealthSourceNW.com

Dr. Dave Sullivan’s website is Oregon Advocates for School Trust Lands (OASTL). Head to oastl.org to learn more. Please donate to help them fight Oregon’s mismanagement to make Oregon follow its own laws and manage the school trust lands. It’s in Oregon’s Constitution for pity’s sake!

Putting Out Fires in Forests & Congress | Dave Sullivan & John Di Paola

By Dr Mark | March 26, 2022 | Comments 1 comment

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Show Summary: This week, it’s citizen answering the call, every day people who got fed up with what was happening with our govt and stepped forward to do something. We talk with Dr. Dave Sullivan about his lawsuit against the State of Oregon for refusing to obey its own laws on the School Trust lands. And we talk with Dr. John Di Paola, who is running for Congress in Oregon’s 5th District. As a recently retired orthopedic surgeon, John had more than a bit to say about the government’s mismanagement of covid that endangered his patients.

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Original Air Dates: March 26th & 27th, 2022 | Guests: Dr. Dave Sullivan & Dr. John Di Paola

This Week – Citizens Answer the Call

Listeners of I Spy Radio are very knowledgeable about the Elliott Forest and the State of Oregon’s own attempts to sabotage the School Trust lands. And do everything possible not to obey their own laws. Recently, Oregon voted to effectively take the Elliott offline and remove it from production. And pay OSU to “study” the forest. Which means Oregon has moved it from an income production (an asset) to an expense (a liability).

That’s a violation of the law. The School Trust lands were to be held by the state, log them, and use the proceeds to pay into the School Trust.

We talk to first-time guest, Dr. Dave Sullivan, an emeritus professor, school of business, at Oregon State University. He has stepped up and is suing the State of Oregon for violating the law and their financial responsibility. To the schools. To the taxpayers. And to our school children.

“School trust lands were granted to states at the time of statehood for the sole purpose of generating revenue in perpetuity for public education.” – Oregon Advocates for School Trust Lands

Dr. John Di Paola – Fed Up with Congress

John Di Paola had a good, long career as a busy orthopedic surgeon. But never expected the complete mismanagement of covid by the government. As a recently retired orthopedic surgeon, John had more than a bit to say about the government’s covid mismanagement that endangered his patients.

Looking for more information about Dr. John Di Paola and his run for congress in Oregon’s CD5 Head to www.dipaolaforcongress.com

John Di Paola came across this series of workshops Oregon wants to teach kids. Including "The Case for Porn Literacy." — Oregon’s “educators” sexuality workshops, including “The Case for Porn Literacy”

After his planned retirement in July 2020, he finally had some time to start reading and looking around and the more he looked, the more horrified and angry he became. From what was happening in our schools, attacks on small businesses, the border — there was no end of problems.

We talk with John about what else convinced him to run. He shares with us his thoughts on the destruction of America’s education system, which has become an indoctrination center for every whim of the far left. And he talks with us about bringing back businesses to Oregon.

Check out the “My Future, My Choice” sexuality workshops John’s wife found being offered by the Oregon Dept of Human Services. Including “The Case for Porn Literacy”.

We’ll have to have John Di Poala back on before the election. We really feel we only just scratched the surface with him.

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Research, Links, & Further Information

Dr. Dave Sullivan’s website is Oregon Advocates for School Trust Lands, www.OASTL.org
- Want to learn more? Check out previous I Spy Radio shows on the Elliott Forest
Dr. John Di Paola’s campaign website is dipaolaforcongress.com
A recent Oregon Department of Education Sexuality Education Newsletter (ODE, March 2022)
- Editors note: Oregon clearly has a typo there. They mean “indoctrination” not “education.”
- Editor’s note 2: Note also it’s no longer “sex ed,” now it’s “sexuality education.”